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Roy Cooke
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« on: February 07, 2010, 08:51:04 AM »

Every thing is wrong with this chimney .
 And here is a cloth covered stove cable service feed only allowed for a few years in about 1950 .

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 09:37:16 AM »

Roy.... is that chimney cap,chase cap, surround, cover, or whatever it is, constructed of " EXPOSURE 1 exterior plywood"
One can't be too careful!!!!   Smiley    I like the stove service too!
 Phil.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 10:47:40 AM »

Pyrotenax Service entrance . I have only ever seen one .
 I installed many miles of this cable years ago. Roy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral-insulated_copper-clad_cable

Mineral-insulated copper-clad cable
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 11:31:36 AM »

Roy... Thanks for the info.

Phil. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 12:20:32 PM »

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/prod/insulation-isolant-eng.php

http://www.grassroots.ca/homeowner_help_articles/vermiculite-insulation.php

 Knob & tube picture has Rock wool and vermiculite.

Zonite was one of the suppliers of vermiculite.

K&Tube with fuse protection added  No approved .
 If you find wood chips as insulation extremly flamable ,Write hard .
If you find see dust not the best insulation but does not burn very well at all .
 ( Yes that is correct does not burn well at all. )
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2010, 01:07:55 PM »

 We all look to see if the windows have lost their seal . Please also look close at the bottom and top corners for drilled holes , can be hard to see look close at bottom right that small piece of plastic covers a 1/8 hole in the glass.. Roy
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 02:16:53 PM »

Roy,

You exceeded the SOP's by removing the chimney cover. You did not have to remove the cap in order to note your concerns.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 02:33:17 PM »

Roy,

You exceeded the SOP's by removing the chimney cover. You did not have to remove the cap in order to note your concerns.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 06:21:16 AM »

We all look to see if the windows have lost their seal . Please also look close at the bottom and top corners for drilled holes , can be hard to see look close at bottom right that small piece of plastic covers a 1/8 hole in the glass.. Roy

Roy:

The small plastic thing is a one way valve, installed to allow moisture to vent from between the panes.  This is a repair process to remove the moisture.  A fairly new method of repair-- much cheaper that replaceing an otherwise good window.

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 07:34:08 AM »

We all look to see if the windows have lost their seal . Please also look close at the bottom and top corners for drilled holes , can be hard to see look close at bottom right that small piece of plastic covers a 1/8 hole in the glass.. Roy
Roy:

The small plastic thing is a one way valve, installed to allow moisture to vent from between the panes.  This is a repair process to remove the moisture.  A fairly new method of repair-- much cheaper that replacing an otherwise good window. Cheers
Thanks Doug .
 This picture was from June 3 2004 22 windows on this home where like this .
We had a propane  explosion from a train wreck and on this home most windows lost their seal in the next week .About 1,000 feet from the wreck .
http://www.ottawaliving.ca/crystal_clear-window.php  .
 Just want inspectors to know about this system
Most of these valves had fallen off allowing ants and bugs to get in.
I got a bunch of windows 5 years ago and did this to them and built a small green house.
 Cost is about 30%~ of a new window .
I might do it if it was a back window but at front I think I would repace the window .
 Window cost for replacement is about $10;00 ~+ or- per sq, ft. example 4*6 =24 sq ft cost ~$240;00
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 08:57:37 AM »

I have a question.  I have seen advertizements for thermal window repairs.  I advise my clients to stay away.  It has always been my understanding that a so-called repair cannot clean the inside panes from the water / moisture stains.  Is the correct or have you observed an effective repair method.

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 09:01:28 AM »

Bryce

I have heard the opposite. From what I was told they inject some form of cleaner which evaporates once sunlight gets on it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 09:20:14 AM »

I have a question.  I have seen advertizements for thermal window repairs.  I advise my clients to stay away.
 It has always been my understanding that a so-called repair cannot clean the inside panes from the water / moisture stains.
 Is the correct or have you observed an effective repair method.

Bryce
Depends on how long it has had moisture inside and how much hard water stains on the window.
 Yes the do have a solution its a secret ( I understand it is like Vinagar) then they flush the window and it dries via sun on window air in bottom and out the top.
If a lot then I understand not good as the window can be etched . .
 I can stand corrected but I am told sealed windows about 2.5 ~+ insulation value.
 Lost seal it then becomes 2.0 insulation value .
 Mine where not stained and I just drilled the holes .
1/8 Glass bit at CTC varsol as lubricant and drill slow speed.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 09:26:50 AM »

http://foggywindowdoctor.com/

http://www.drdefogit.com/
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 09:37:28 AM »

I will stand corrected.  But I will still express my doubts and concerns until such time as I see it performed!  Any one can put up a web site and make any claim they wish.  ( home inspectors?HuhHuhHuh)  LOL.

I inspected a reno job that had 5 replacement windows and three thermal seals were broken within the first year!

Bryce
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